[xgws-user] RE: Different problem...

Aleksander Slominski aslom_at_cs.indiana.edu
Thu, 06 Oct 2005 14:00:33 -0500


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delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
>  
>
> I'm very sorry to disturb you.
>
> I get the XSUL source code by the link you gave me 
> (http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/dist/java-repository/xsul/distributions/)
>
>  
>
> I try to launch the XsulDynamicInvoker with the getTemp service 
> without success.
>
> This is my error:
>
>  
>
> Starting com.orsyp.dum4ws.dii.XsulDynamicInvoker
>
> invoking operation 'getTemp' using WSDL from 
> http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/TemperatureService.wsdl
>
> zipcode=02067
>
> received fault <fault>
>
> <faultcode>SOAP-ENV:Client</faultcode>
>
> <faultstring>No Deserializer found to deserialize a ':zipcode' using 
> encoding style 'http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/'.</faultstring>
>
> <faultactor>/soap/servlet/rpcrouter</faultactor>
>
> </fault>
>
> I use:
>
> jar files in xsul/build that I generated
>
> Soap jar 2.3.1
>
> Jar files in lib/xpp3 directory
>
>  
>
> I don't really know what I'm doing wrong or what I forgot....
>
it seems the the service from 
http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/TemperatureService.wsdl does not 
recognize SOAP message.

the resaon is probably that XSUL2 only have super minimmal support for 
soap encoding so it may not have properly processed 
TemperatureService.wsdl - please modify it to doc/literal (it is very 
simple modificaiton  to WSDL) and then call the service.

let me know if you have provlems with that.

best,

alek

>  
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Aleksander Slominski [mailto:aslom_at_cs.indiana.edu]
> Envoyé : jeudi 6 octobre 2005 08:26
> À : Menjikoff Delphine
> Objet : Re: Different problem...
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> delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com wrote:
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>> Hello,
>
>> 
>
> hi!
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>  
>
>> I can not download XSUL module from CVS.
>
>> 
>
>> This is the command I used (I followed the instructions of the XSUL
>
>> home page: http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/xsul/guide/index.html):
>
>> 
>
>> L:\local_src>cvs -d
>
>> :pserver:anonymous_at_cvs.extreme.indiana.edu:/l/extreme/cvspub login
>
>> 
>
>> Logging in to
>
>> :pserver:anonymous_at_cvs.extreme.indiana.edu:2401:/l/extreme/cvspub
>
>> 
>
>> CVS password: I enter "cvsanon"
>
>> 
>
>> cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.extreme.indiana.edu:2401 failed:
>
>> Une connexion existante a d¹ Ûtre fermÚe par l'h¶te distant.
>
>> 
>
> i have no idea - i will check with our sys admins but i suspect that the
>
> problem may be on your side with your firewall or security setup in
>
> place you are connected to internet. this worked fine for me through my
>
> broadband cable conenction:
>
>  
>
> C:\tmp>cvs -d
>
> :pserver:anonymous_at_cvs.extreme.indiana.edu:/l/extreme/cvspub login
>
>  
>
> Logging in to
>
> :pserver:anonymous_at_cvs.extreme.indiana.edu:2401:/l/extreme/cvspub
>
> CVS password: *******
>
>  
>
>> Then, I subscribe to the user mailing list of XSUL user (see the
>
>> attached element), I'm not enable to send email to this mailing list
>
>> (see the attached element)
>
>> 
>
> could you try to send ti again - i will be checking into it.
>
>  
>
> you can download (relatively) current snapshot of XSUL2 including all
>
> souce code from
>
> http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/dist/java-repository/xsul/distributions/
>
>  
>
> let me know if you have other problems.
>
> thanks,
>
>  
>
> alek
>
>  
>
>> Any help will be appreciated.
>
>> 
>
>> Thanks a lot
>
>> 
>
>> Delphine
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>> 
>
>> Delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com <mailto:Delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com">delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com</a> wrote:
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  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">I'm very sorry to disturb you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">I get the XSUL source code by
the link you gave me (<a
 href="http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/dist/java-repository/xsul/distributions/">http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/dist/java-repository/xsul/distributions/</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">I try to launch the
XsulDynamicInvoker with the
getTemp service without success.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">This is my error:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">Starting
com.orsyp.dum4ws.dii.XsulDynamicInvoker<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">invoking
operation 'getTemp'
using WSDL from <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/TemperatureService.wsdl">http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/TemperatureService.wsdl</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">zipcode=02067<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">received
fault &lt;fault&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">&lt;faultcode&gt;SOAP-ENV:Client&lt;/faultcode&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">&lt;faultstring&gt;No
Deserializer found to deserialize a ':zipcode' using encoding style
'<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/">http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/</a>'.&lt;/faultstring&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">&lt;faultactor&gt;/soap/servlet/rpcrouter&lt;/faultactor&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">&lt;/fault&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">I
use:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">jar
files in xsul/build that
I generated<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">Soap
jar 2.3.1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">Jar
files in lib/xpp3
directory<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">I don&#8217;t really know what I&#8217;m
doing wrong or what I
forgot&#8230;.</span></font></p>
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it seems the the service from <font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/TemperatureService.wsdl">http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/TemperatureService.wsdl</a>
does not recognize SOAP message.<br>
<br>
the resaon is probably that XSUL2 only have super minimmal support for
soap encoding so it may not have properly processed </span></font><font
 face="Courier New" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" lang="EN-GB">TemperatureService.wsdl
- please modify it to doc/literal (it is very simple modificaiton&nbsp; to
WSDL) and then call the service.<br>
<br>
let me know if you have provlems with that.<br>
<br>
best,<br>
<br>
alek<br>
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  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">-----Message d'origine-----<br>
De&nbsp;: Aleksander Slominski [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:aslom_at_cs.indiana.edu">mailto:aslom_at_cs.indiana.edu</a>] <br>
Envoy&eacute;&nbsp;: jeudi 6 octobre 2005 08:26<br>
&Agrave;&nbsp;: Menjikoff Delphine<br>
Objet&nbsp;: Re: Different problem...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com">delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com</a>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">hi!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; I can not download XSUL
module from CVS.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; This is the command I used
(I followed the
instructions of the XSUL <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; home page:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/xsul/guide/index.html">http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/xsul/guide/index.html</a>):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; L:\local_src&gt;cvs -d <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt;
:pserver:anonymous_at_cvs.extreme.indiana.edu:/l/extreme/cvspub login<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; Logging in to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt;
:pserver:anonymous_at_cvs.extreme.indiana.edu:2401:/l/extreme/cvspub<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; CVS password: I enter
&#8220;cvsanon&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; cvs [login aborted]:
connect to
cvs.extreme.indiana.edu:2401 failed: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; Une connexion existante a
d&sup1; &Ucirc;tre ferm&Uacute;e par
l'h&para;te distant.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">i have no idea - i will check
with our sys admins but
i suspect that the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">problem may be on your side with
your firewall or
security setup in <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">place you are connected to
internet. this worked fine
for me through my <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">broadband cable conenction:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">C:\tmp&gt;cvs -d <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">:pserver:anonymous_at_cvs.extreme.indiana.edu:/l/extreme/cvspub
login<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">Logging in to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">:pserver:anonymous_at_cvs.extreme.indiana.edu:2401:/l/extreme/cvspub<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">CVS password: *******<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; Then, I subscribe to the
user mailing list of
XSUL user (see the <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; attached element), I&#8217;m not
enable to send email
to this mailing list <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt; (see the attached element)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB">could you try to send ti again -
i will be c</span>hecking
into it.<o:p></o:p></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">you
can download (relatively) current snapshot of XSUL2 including all <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">souce
code from<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/dist/java-repository/xsul/distributions/">http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/dist/java-repository/xsul/distributions/</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">let
me know if you have other problems.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">alek<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Any help will be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Thanks a lot<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Delphine<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com">Delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com">&lt;mailto:Delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Subject:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Welcome to the "xgws-user" mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
From:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xgws-user-request_at_cs.indiana.edu">&lt;xgws-user-request_at_cs.indiana.edu&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Date:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Mon, 3 Oct 2005 15:36:01 +0200<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
To:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com">&lt;delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
To:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com">&lt;delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Welcome to the <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xgws-user_at_cs.indiana.edu">xgws-user_at_cs.indiana.edu</a> mailing list! Please visit<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/">http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/</a> and feel free to send your<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
comments ot this mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
To post to this list, send your email to:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xgws-user_at_cs.indiana.edu">xgws-user_at_cs.indiana.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
General information about the mailing list is at:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/xgws-user">http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/listinfo/xgws-user</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
subscription page at:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/options/xgws-user/dme%40orsyp.com">http://mailman.cs.indiana.edu/mailman/options/xgws-user/dme%40orsyp.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xgws-user-request_at_cs.indiana.edu">xgws-user-request_at_cs.indiana.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
You must know your password to change your options (including changing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
seechte<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
If you forget your password, don't worry, you will receive a monthly<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
reminder telling you what all your cs.indiana.edu mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
passwords are, and how to unsubscribe or change your options. There<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
is also a button on your options page that will email your current<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
password to you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
You may also have your password mailed to you automatically off of the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Web page noted above.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Subject:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Your message to xgws-user awaits moderator approval<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
From:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xgws-user-admin_at_cs.indiana.edu">&lt;xgws-user-admin_at_cs.indiana.edu&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Date:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Mon, 3 Oct 2005 15:41:02 +0200<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
To:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com">&lt;delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
To:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com">&lt;delphine.menjikoff_at_orsyp.com&gt;</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Your mail to 'xgws-user' with the subject<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Simpel Request<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
The reason it is being held:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Post by non-member to a members-only list<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;
notification of the moderator's decision.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">--
  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;">The
best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoPlainText"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  </div>
</blockquote>
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The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay
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