[BLUG] Re: Is there an apple fancier on the list?
Kirk Gleason
blug_at_mailman.cs.indiana.edu
Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:38:47 -0400
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Apologies,
The command key is the key that used to be called 'the open apple key'
back in the day when there was an 'closed apple key as well'. Anytime you
are reading mac docs and they refer to the command key, that is the one they
mean.
--Kirk
On 3/25/07, Beartooth <karhunhammas_at_lserv.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, Kirk Gleason wrote:
>
> > You might try this:
> >
> > Power on the machine, and hold down Command + Option + P + R
> > (yes that is 4 keys). Make sure you get the keys down before
> > you hear the chime.
>
> I don't see a "command" key. Do you mean Ctrl? The enter
> key (called "Return")?? The one with the apple and the funny
> square??? (I assume P and R are just the alphabet keys.)
>
> > Keep holding them down until you have heard the chime for the
> > 4th time (this is just generally accepted as standard procedure
> > in the mac community). The machine will cycle in between the
> > chimes. Once you hear the 4th chime, let go of the keys, and
> > the machine should boot.
>
> Typical, absolutely typical.
>
> > This crazy procedure is called zapping the PRAM, and can
> > sometimes fix odd problems on the mac.
> >
> > Also, I am not sure how musically inclined you might be, but if
> > you can tell if you are hearing a major chord or a minor chord,
> > it can point to some kinds of hardware problems. I just can't
> > remember what offhand.
>
> I have a decent theoretical grasp of major and minor; but
> despite ten years' vast enjoyment of Music School offerings long
> ago, my ancient ears still lack something indeterminate ...
>
> > BTW, I have been running (K)Ubuntu on an older Powerbook G3
> > since Hoary, and i have had relatively few problems (once you
> > get used to not having any Flash).
>
> I think the problem this time is my fault; certainly not
> Fedora's. Last time I upgraded, I tarred up all of /home on my
> machine, scp'd the tarball to each other PC, untarred it there,
> and chown'd as necessary. (Took a bunch of handholding, which I
> got, but I did it -- and *think* I can do it again, with lots of
> up-arrowing ...)
>
> All of that was straight Fedora, on Intel machines, of
> course. Then I tried it with this .ppc laptop. That *seemed* to
> work OK at first, but may have had a hook in it.
>
> Adn if that's not it, it must be my somehow bungled
> attempt to install roadnav.
>
> Roadnav, I hope, may finally enable me to do one of the
> main things I bought a laptop for in the first place. I'll put it
> on a passenger's lap (preferably mine), connected to a GPS and
> the cigarette lighter power supply, and go driving back roads.
>
> We have lots of nice roads here in the Blue Ridge, that
> beat even Brown County and the Tunnel Road route to Bean Blossom
> (imnsho, of course, as an old mountain man from back of beyond).
> All without a line of M$ code nor any proprietary software -- nor
> High Technoid competence on my part. Keep lishing me wuck.
>
> --
> Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Double Retiree,
> Not Quite Clueless Linux Power User, with precious
> (very precious) little idea where up is.
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Apologies,<br> The command key is the key that used to be called 'the open apple key' back in the day when there was an 'closed apple key as well'. Anytime you are reading mac docs and they refer to the command key, that is the one they mean.
<br><br>--Kirk<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 3/25/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Beartooth</b> <<a href="mailto:karhunhammas_at_lserv.com">karhunhammas_at_lserv.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, Kirk Gleason wrote:<br><br>> You might try this:<br>><br>> Power on the machine, and hold down Command + Option + P + R<br>> (yes that is 4 keys). Make sure you get the keys down before<br>
> you hear the chime.<br><br> I don't see a "command" key. Do you mean Ctrl? The enter<br>key (called "Return")?? The one with the apple and the funny<br>square??? (I assume P and R are just the alphabet keys.)
<br><br>> Keep holding them down until you have heard the chime for the<br>> 4th time (this is just generally accepted as standard procedure<br>> in the mac community). The machine will cycle in between the<br>> chimes. Once you hear the 4th chime, let go of the keys, and
<br>> the machine should boot.<br><br> Typical, absolutely typical.<br><br>> This crazy procedure is called zapping the PRAM, and can<br>> sometimes fix odd problems on the mac.<br>><br>> Also, I am not sure how musically inclined you might be, but if
<br>> you can tell if you are hearing a major chord or a minor chord,<br>> it can point to some kinds of hardware problems. I just can't<br>> remember what offhand.<br><br> I have a decent theoretical grasp of major and minor; but
<br>despite ten years' vast enjoyment of Music School offerings long<br>ago, my ancient ears still lack something indeterminate ...<br><br>> BTW, I have been running (K)Ubuntu on an older Powerbook G3<br>> since Hoary, and i have had relatively few problems (once you
<br>> get used to not having any Flash).<br><br> I think the problem this time is my fault; certainly not<br>Fedora's. Last time I upgraded, I tarred up all of /home on my<br>machine, scp'd the tarball to each other PC, untarred it there,
<br>and chown'd as necessary. (Took a bunch of handholding, which I<br>got, but I did it -- and *think* I can do it again, with lots of<br>up-arrowing ...)<br><br> All of that was straight Fedora, on Intel machines, of
<br>course. Then I tried it with this .ppc laptop. That *seemed* to<br>work OK at first, but may have had a hook in it.<br><br> Adn if that's not it, it must be my somehow bungled<br>attempt to install roadnav.
<br><br> Roadnav, I hope, may finally enable me to do one of the<br>main things I bought a laptop for in the first place. I'll put it<br>on a passenger's lap (preferably mine), connected to a GPS and<br>the cigarette lighter power supply, and go driving back roads.
<br><br> We have lots of nice roads here in the Blue Ridge, that<br>beat even Brown County and the Tunnel Road route to Bean Blossom<br>(imnsho, of course, as an old mountain man from back of beyond).<br>All without a line of M$ code nor any proprietary software -- nor
<br>High Technoid competence on my part. Keep lishing me wuck.<br><br>--<br>Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Double Retiree,<br>Not Quite Clueless Linux Power User, with precious<br>(very precious) little idea where up is.
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