[BLUG] Windows Mobile sucks. Where is Linux mobile?
Andrew Poland
blug_at_mailman.cs.indiana.edu
Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:51:22 -0400
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Windows Mobile isn't the only platform that sucks. I'm a die hard
Palm user (Treo 700p) but frequent crashes (no memory protection) and
horrible multitasking performance (it is cooperative at best) are
killing me. Supposedly they're on track to replace the dying Palm OS
5 with a new platform called Access Linux. Here's hoping they pull
it off someday soon.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/14/palm-os-5-rip-access-linux-
platform-alp-hello-beautiful/
http://www.access-company.com/products/linux/alp.html
Andrew
On Mar 18, 2007, at 9:40 PM, Mark Krenz wrote:
>
> There it had to be said.
>
> Now I know there are some others out there that share my sentiments.
> What frustrates me is that as a system administrator, I need to be
> able
> to receive text message alerts on my phone and have the phone re-
> notify
> me if I don't check the message initially. Either I'm sleeping and
> need
> more noise to wake me up or I'm away from my phone (Eeeek!!) and
> need to
> hear that I was alerted when I get back to it.
>
> My wife just bought a Motorola Q and I was thinkign about getting
> one,
> good thing I haven't yet. Windows Mobile for Smartphones doesn't
> properly re-alert me. And neither does the full Windows Mobile (I
> also
> have a Treo 700w at my day job). Neither one of these cell phone
> operating systems give you the proper options to re-send an alert
> if you
> don't check the message.
>
> Does anyone else face this problem with phones recently? Any
> suggestions as to what good phones are out there that don't use
> Windows,
> but still offer the same kind of functionality? I'd still like to be
> able to use a decent calendar on my phone, etc.
>
> Anyone know if any phones out there run Linux?
>
> Keep in mind that I am with Verizon and pretty much need to stick
> with
> them. I know there are some better options with Nokia phones,
> etc. But
> I can't get good coverage at work.
>
> While I'm on the gripe wagon. I could potentially use a really long
> alert to page me like a 2 minute song or something, but the problem is
> that Windows based phones don't allow you to cancel the alert that is
> running. So if you get the alert early on in the notification, you
> can't do anything to shut it off and have to wait through it, etc.
> This
> was a basic feature of cell phones up until now. What has happened to
> cell phones? The professionals who have used them for so many
> years are
> now getting the shaft.
>
> Phones these days were seem to be made for 19 year old girls driving
> in their daddy's car. Even the high end phones.
>
> --
> Mark Krenz
> Bloomington Linux Users Group
> http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/
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<HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; =
-khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Windows Mobile isn't the only =
platform that sucks.=A0 I'm a die hard Palm user (Treo 700p) but =
frequent crashes (no memory protection) and horrible multitasking =
performance (it is cooperative at best) are killing me. =A0Supposedly =
they're on track to replace the dying Palm OS 5 with a new platform =
called Access Linux.=A0 Here's hoping they pull it off someday =
soon.<DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><A =
href=3D"http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/14/palm-os-5-rip-access-linux-plat=
form-alp-hello-beautiful/">http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/14/palm-os-5-ri=
p-access-linux-platform-alp-hello-beautiful/</A><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>http://www.access-company.com=
/products/linux/alp.html</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Andrew</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DI=
V>On Mar 18, 2007, at 9:40 PM, Mark Krenz wrote:</DIV><BR =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</SPAN>There it had to be =
said.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</SPAN>Now =
I know there are some others out there that share my =
sentiments.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">What frustrates me is that as a =
system administrator, I need to be able</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to =
receive text message alerts on my phone and have the phone =
re-notify</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">me if I don't check the message =
initially.<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Either I'm =
sleeping and need</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">more noise to wake me up or I'm =
away from my phone (Eeeek!!) and need to</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">hear =
that I was alerted when I get back to it.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>My wife just bought a =
Motorola Q and I was thinkign about getting one,</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">good thing I haven't yet.<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Windows Mobile for =
Smartphones doesn't</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">properly re-alert me.<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>And neither does the full =
Windows Mobile (I also</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">have a Treo 700w at my day =
job).<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Neither one of =
these cell phone</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">operating systems give you the =
proper options to re-send an alert if you</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">don't =
check the message.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; =
"><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Does anyone else face this =
problem with phones recently?<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =
</SPAN>Any</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">suggestions as to what good =
phones are out there that don't use Windows,</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">but still offer the same kind of functionality?<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>I'd still like to =
be</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; ">able to use a decent calendar on my phone, =
etc.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =
</SPAN>Anyone know if any phones out there run Linux?</DIV><DIV =
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margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Keep in mind that I am with =
Verizon and pretty much need to stick with</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">them.<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>I know there are =
some better options with Nokia phones, etc.<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>But</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">I can't get good coverage at work.</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>While I'm on the gripe =
wagon.<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>I could =
potentially use a really long</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">alert to page =
me like a 2 minute song or something, but the problem is</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">that Windows based phones don't allow you to cancel =
the alert that is</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">running.<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>So if you get the alert early =
on in the notification, you</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">can't do =
anything to shut it off and have to wait through it, etc.<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>This</DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">was a basic feature of cell phones up until =
now.<SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>What has happened =
to</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; ">cell phones?<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>The professionals who have =
used them for so many years are</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">now getting =
the shaft.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =
</SPAN>Phones these days were seem to be made for 19 year old girls =
driving</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">in their daddy's car.<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </SPAN>Even the high end =
phones.</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">--<SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0</SPAN></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Mark =
Krenz</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Bloomington Linux Users =
Group</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
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">http://www.bloomingtonlinux.org/</DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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