Linden Lab has released the source code for the Second Life client under the GNU GPL v2 http://lwn.net/Articles/217831/ It's about time.. I wonder if this will lead to a usable, open standard for online 3D interaction, or if it will turn into another VRML sucktastrophe. -fenn home page http://fenn.freeshell.org/home.html on da Super Dimension Fortress